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  Thanks Mom and Dad - oh, and thanks Mother

  by berrygerry in

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  http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2013/2013bcsc2099/2013bcsc2099.html?searchurlhash=aaaaaqahamvob3zhaaaaaaab.

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  As much as I hate and despise the Society and its money-grubbing ways, I have to agree with the Court's reasoning.

  It's just a pity that this undoubtedly kind and generous old couple was so enamored of the Society. I hope they provided for their other heirs as well and didn't give everything to the Borg.

  I completely understand and sympathize with the family's feelings in this matter and don't blame them a bit for trying to get the "Conditional Donation" returned to the estate. I just don't think they had the legal grounds to prevail. Too bad. If the Society wasn't so greedy, they would consider the family's feelings and return the money voluntarily. But of course, that might set a precedent and they can't allow that.
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  Creationism emails from a JW

  by TheStumbler in

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  2. bible

  earlier this year, i received an email from a jw family member with a link to this video:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ruhkgqjug.

  i wrote a long reply debunking the video (mostly copying talkorigins info).

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  "Triple intensification"... wow! Is that like "Repetition for Emphasis," one of the council points on the old Ministry School sheet?

  This guy should have been a numerologist. Anyone with enough time can find hidden meanings in just about any combination of numbers and/or letters. Remember when JW's were all abuzz about the name "Kissinger" having letters that added up to 666?

  Well, here's some more amazing facts. My last name has 7 letters. My son's first name has 7 letters. My birth year's last two digits add up to 7. My job is flying an aircraft called...wait for it...the 777, or triple-7!

  Coincidence? I don't think so!
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  Want to hear something funny ?

  by troubled mind in

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  2. friends

  my husband just won the city wide holiday light display for christmas i am so proud .

  just a few short years ago i was the one that put a strand of white lights around the porch railing ,and a couple of lighted deer in the yard ....that brought the elders around real quick (after three years of silence ) at that time my husband was still holding onto the notion his faith was not bond to a cult .

  it didn't take long after the 'loving sheparding call' for him to see things in another light.

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  Outstanding display! Congrats to the both of you. You're free of the Borg and its mind-control, and best of all, you have each other!

  Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all here on JWN.

  Radar
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  Brother Knorr's Cadillac and other secret perks

  by tim hooper in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  back when i was a wee lad, my dad told me that the brothers in brooklyn had voted to purchase a cadillac motor car for the sole use of the then president, nathan h knorr.

  he'd got this information from the london bethel, him being a chum of the then branch overseer, pryce hughes and his pal ron drage.

  religious leaders of non-profit sects are supposed to take a vow of poverty!.

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  It's not so much that Knorr received a Cadillac(!), oh my, it's that it was covered up and he treated it as a bribe by doing something he would not have otherwise.

  As far as the Cessna 402 goes, that was never covered up. In fact, there was an article (Watchtower or Awake!, I'm not sure) that talked about it and how they used it in Alaska to reach isolated communities.

  Cadillacs aren't that special anyway. I think it's just the name that's so iconic. Heck, I've bought several new ones over the years and I'm just a regular working man. I don't buy new cars very often, but when I do, I get a nice one. (Before anyone accuses me of putting on airs, the last new car I bought was in 2007, and it was not a Cadillac.)
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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  "Back call" is no longer used. I think they're now called "return visits."

  Then there was all the brouhaha over whether you were supposed to "vindicate" or "sanctify" the big J's name.

  And remember when the "Service Center" which became the "Rendezvous"?

  And all Servants were changed into Overseers. (Boy, is that a loaded word. Especially since the Borg has more black and Hispanic members than anything else. And that's where almost all the growth is nowadays.)

  Probably lots more I can't recall at the moment.
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  Brother Knorr's Cadillac and other secret perks

  by tim hooper in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  back when i was a wee lad, my dad told me that the brothers in brooklyn had voted to purchase a cadillac motor car for the sole use of the then president, nathan h knorr.

  he'd got this information from the london bethel, him being a chum of the then branch overseer, pryce hughes and his pal ron drage.

  religious leaders of non-profit sects are supposed to take a vow of poverty!.

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  Just to be the Devil's advocate, I am a commercial airline pilot with lots of experience in light airplanes too. I am familiar with this particular airplane. There is no way you could rightly describe this Cessna 402 being flown in Alaska as luxurious. Spartan and utilitarian would be far more accurate.

  I will concede that this airplane was being used appropriately, given the circumstances. Scandal is to be found within the Borg,no doubt, but you will need to look elsewhere in this instance.
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  Guess who...

  by sooner7nc in

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  2. friends

  ...just passed his last nursing final and is now a graduate nurse?.

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  Congratulations!

  So I have a friend who has this rash...
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  Advice Needed...Again

  by wallievase in

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  2. friends

  current update- the wife and i are separated.

  i dont go to the meetings or in service but im not df, or da.

  she is not budging.. problem- my wife has made it clear that she doesnt want me back unless i do all the witness stuff, i have even offered to attend meetings but not participate in commenting or go in service and this is not good enough.

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  under the radar

  I guess the first question is, do you want to stay with her?

  If you do, then you could point her to 1Cor. 7:13, where Pauls tells wives not to leave (or send away) an unbelieving husband who is willing to live with her. If you are willing to at least attend some meetings and not constantly harangue her about the Truth©, then she has no "scriptural grounds" to force you to separate or divorce.

  In fact, if she insists on bringing the elders in on the matter, they'd be pretty much "forced" to support your position.

  Of course, as a practical matter, staying with someone who doesn't really want you can be a special hell in and of itself.

  Please submit 2¢ for this valuable advice.
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  JW.bore invades my vacation?!?

  by darth frosty in

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  2. friends

  just got back from a cruise and dubs were walking around the boat faithfully wearing their jw.bore pins smdh.

  than at cozumel i saw these lovely sisters.

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  I'm shocked at the brazen display of toe cleavage!

  Seriously, they look very pleasant and friendly. Just two friends out doing what they believe they oughta on a beautiful day. Too bad they've been deluded into serving a mind-control cult. Such a waste of time and energy.

  Hope you had a good time on your cruise.
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  You have to be strong

  by troubled mind in

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  2. friends

  standing up for yourself,and deciding to follow your own path takes strength .

  you have to be strong especially if you were raised in a way of life that dictated so much of who you were .

  while being raised as a jehovah's witness i was taught to follow ,unquestionally follow .i was told to put others before myself ,serve,don't stand out ,don't be independent .

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  Well said, Sir.

  I also thank Simon for making this site available. No telling how many people it has helped, in real and tangible ways. Maybe he should be counting his time. I guarantee he's done more good with this than any amount of field circus time.